cessna crash kathryn's report

Accident pilot: "I have to meet expectations and get this done"Interesting article reflecting on "completing the mission":https://www.aviationsafetymagazine.com/features/decision-making-for-pilots/. The FAA isn't in the habit of approving approaches that don't meet TERPS, so that is a given. The real-life nature of what transpired reveals a complete pilot disregard for a multitude of no-go factors and specifically communicated warnings.https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=13775462&FileExtension=pdf&FileName=CEN20FA022_CVR_Report_RELEASE-Rel.pdfDocket:https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=100636. A pilot is a pilot and she made a mistake and hit something she knew was there. For rise, the difference between the uncompensated raw reported altitudes at the two points will be used. He wanted to ban jets at SMO and ultimately close it. 18. From accountability to safety? She not only saw the best in people, she brought out the best in people. As she descended she may have lost sight of the runway. The airplane subsequently struck the smokestack and fell to the rooftop. In the publication it states that if an airplane was manufactured without shoulder harnesses, the owner should obtain a kit to install them from the manufacturer or manufacturer's local representative. The single isolated stack is perfectly positioned to snag an aircraft that is suddenly enshrouded in the condensate clouds and losing altitude. When the airport manager says things to you like "it don't look good to me I don't know what you guys are thinkin'." Give it up, she didn't bust minimums she got sucked right into that smokestack by the steam cloud she couldn't get out of in time.This is 100% on the potato plant. Left wing may have been inertia-separated.The wrecked engine bay is visible to the right of the flipped forward pilot's door and the PT-6 air plenum is identifiable in that torn open forward bay wreckage.Kameraone.com's scene video:https://www.kameraone.com/trending-stories/#7568616, For reference, a C208B PT-6 air plenum example photo:https://media.sandhills.com/img.axd?id=7257643989&wid=4326165471&rwl=False&p=&ext=&w=0&h=0&t=&lp=&c=True&wt=False&sz=Max&rt=0&checksum=MwQ%2b3%2fmnuLw%2bzq2hh%2ftYM0KEexS1%2fpTBK5zoSVQPYb8%3d, Active snow fall is captured after the 14 second mark in this video of the crash scene. Very sorry for her Family, she sounds like an amazing lady, should have lived to be an airline captain for many years, if thats what she was building time for.I have about a thousand single Pilot IFR hours between our CE-340 and Aztec F, both were very nice handling airplanes, but was taught by my CFII Dad, that if you cant get in the first time an go missed, its not going to get any better on the second try, and you will likely try to "force" your way injust decide its time to go someplace else, and hopefully you brought enough fuel to get thereof course I flew part 91 and wasnt under any pressure to deliver the goodsmy hats off to the freight dogs who have to fly in any weather, it just seems like a risky way to build time to a right seat at a regional.. You're missing his point entirely. The Santa Monica Fire and Police Departments responded to the scene and were assisted by L.A. County Lifeguards. Always remember the human side, and respect that a lot of people suffer greatly from a loss like this. The FAA also thinks the runways at Burley are short. I'm guessing she was tired and flying in bad conditions, with a wall of steam from those chimneys and a roof cleared of snow by heat, and she mistook the roof for the extended threshold. These facts were demonstrated to tragic effect on March 15, 2012. when you can see the ground below you and the runway end ahead you are going to adjust rate of decent so as to hit the piano keys. This approach has an MDA of 408 AGL, a glideslope of 3.75, do the math. it seems to me she became visual at or near the dh and continued the approach visually. The insurance company, the salvage team, the trauma center were all baffled at how I survived the crash. Sunrise was 6:56. Subsequently, the controller cleared the pilot for the RNAV runway 20 approach via the MALTT transition at BYI. The condensate can blow into your path within seconds, unexpectedly. Chunks of ice breaking off may be sucked into the engine and cause structural damage. airworthiness of an aircraft or the current aircraft configuration. But I got my wish too. You have any proof of that? Usually the pencil-thin outside air temperature gauge is the first place where ice forms on an airplane. Looking at the #1,2 & 3 truck bays on the tater building, the roof height looks to be about 26 feet.This was the image used showing the truck bays:https://goo.gl/maps/xinz7GVPnjkDvJUp6The height AGL to top of stack (if the stack has not been changed from what is seen in the street view image) would be about 70 + 26, making it roughly 100 feet instead of 150. Preventing upper body collision with the instrument panel in relatively survivable accidents doesn't get enough consideration. Sometimes, a thin coating of ice will form on the windshield, preceded in some instances by frosting. To get the actual indicated altitude, you need to correct it with the local altimeter setting. It should also be noted that visibility was two miles just two minutes before the crash and 2.5 miles eight minutes after the crash. Not sure why there's a discrepancy between the plate and the database (another FAA problem: which elevation, if either, is correct?). The single pilot 135 accident rate is actually much lower than the overall GA rate, despite the challenging conditions in which "those pilots" fly day in and day out. Look at the Blancolirio video on YT, he shows where they were in relation to the runway. About 0832:25, the airplane came into viewAccording to a witness, located about one quarter mile away, he first heard, then observed the airplane descend out of the clouds then immediately went into a steam cloud, . The aircraft was well below the 3.75 degree "glidepath" at this point from the FAF to the TDZE of 4152'. YOU DO NOT NEED TRIG OR OTHER BULL. From the second platform level, the ladder going to the top level platform is missing and you can see a section of stack that appears damaged just below the top platform. I see no conjecture from the original post; only data from flightaware. "Given that the approach predates the stack she hit, I'm just guessing that the stack was not the reason why there is only an RNAV approach. According to the operator, the pilot was transporting cargo on an instrument flight rules flight from the Salt Lake City International Airport (SLC), Salt Lake City, Utah, to the Burley Municipal Airport (BYI), Burley, Idaho. The vapour warms the air as it cools and condenses, a process accentuated by a cold day. From the Flight Aware track log from 10:31:37 EDT to 10:32:04 EDT, a timeframe of 27 seconds, the plane lost 22 knots of ground speed and lost 300 feet in altitude. Brittney is survived by her parents, Sharon and Jim Bob Infanger, her siblings, Craig Infanger (Daria); Emily Goodrich (Robert); Branden Infanger (Annie); Jayden Infanger; Erica Hill (Taylor); Adrienne Rochleau (Chris); and her loving nieces, nephews, aunts, uncles and cousins. Strange things happen when you get tired. If you are flying on a very cold day, (like Brittney Infanger), and enter a condensate cloud, you will be blinded and lose lift due to the anomaly of stagnant or descending warm air. Close up photos clearly show that the tall stack with the yellow ladder was hit. A pilot can do a CDFA to the VDP, or "dive and drive" to the self-calculated VDP, either is legal, OK. AD Compliance Report April 2022. It's very possible she could see the runway but wasn't seeing the smoke stack for various reasons, Perhaps was not following the flight director and passing weather unexpectedly started dropping heavier mist and snow just long enough to obscure visual.Here is the NEXRAD weather playback for the 1400 to 1500Z period, with BYI's location marked. The plane is resting upside down pointing towards the probable point of impact about 90 feet away, with about a 190 degree counter clockwise rotation and flip supporting the left wing strike probably. This means the potato plant created artificial IFR conditions. Suggest you do a little searching for DG's past history/reputation. "Given that the approach predates the stack she hit"The current approach is dated Jan 30, 2020. The crash happened in shallow surf around 3:15 p.m. A witness captured video showing the Cessna 150A gradually dropping from the sky, hitting the sand and then flipping over not far from beachgoers. She went on to graduate from ATP Flight School in Mesa, Arizona in 2019. Before the first approach, the pilot acknowledged the weather. Thanks for posting that CVR transcript. Showing those documents as full sheet images before zooming in to a cropped section would be best. Cessna 172 Skyhawk, N6238D, Skylane Aviation LLC: Fatal accident occurred March 26, 2016 at Yeager Airport (KCRW), Charleston, Kanawha County, West Virginia Aviation Accident Final Report - National Transportation Safety Board: https://app.ntsb.gov/pdf NTSB Identification: ERA16FA141 14 CFR . On 3 October 2021, a Romanian private plane crashed into a building in San Donato Milanese, Lombardy, Italy. Yes, the pilot descended below minimums but she did so because she had the runway in sight, which is NOT a minimums "bust". Ground speed has zero to do with how a wing flies. Kathryn's Report: Most Read This Year Cessna 208B Grand Caravan, N928JP: Fatal accident occurred April 13, 2022 near Burley Municipal Airport (KBYI), Cassia County, Idaho Cirrus SR22 GTS, N24LA: Fatal accident occurred May 06, 2022 in the Atlantic Ocean near Tybee Island, Georgia 4 fatal. There is no RWY 30 at KBYI. That's a stark contrast not likely to be mistaken for anything else. Interpreting the original post can be taken as:A: The pilots don't always get the necessary hand holding-or-B: The pilots don't get what flying is all about.Seems like original post was A, response interpreted it as B. Search our listings for used & new airplanes updated daily from 100's of private sellers & dealers. It's true that 109' separation isn't a lot, but the outdated overhead view of the stack that google maps shows tends to make commenters here miss the red steel base structure and sampler's work platform at the very top in the more recent street view images. that happens in many non precision approaches, very common.Someone commented:At reaching the edge of the building, 80 + 8 = 88 knots:Wed 10:32:25 AM 42.5520 -113.7592 217 80 92 4,150 -857Airspeed of 88 is ok, yes it fell off but stalling speed is in the low 60's.2nd the descent rate is -857. It is believed the plane was doing a flyover of the camp when the incident occurred. (b) Assuming the stack is 100ft AGL, from the ground surface elevation at the plant. A very strange UPS A300 crash in Birmingham was never assigned a direct cause - just CFIT below minimums. RIP. Stereo vision would have been useless. Brittney Infanger was a highly skilled and trusted pilot. Must have been one hell of a steam cloud. steam coalescing from 6 stacks into one plume, per NTSB report. There is a lot of emotion in this thread. Looked for photos of how "recently" roof stacks existed there. 1, 1, 1 1/2, 2 statute mile visibility was not previously discussed in comments.) This map-pin location is Gossner's Elevators:maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.54918+-113.76041Street view:https://goo.gl/maps/2hJ8XhWHUTENBvEa8Here are all of the HEYBURN obstacles of the 16-ID.dat obstacle database file, with map-pin and street view images after converting HH:MM:SS.SS GPS coordinates to decimal:That 140 foot radio tower near the United Metals Recycling plant is:16-022120 O US ID HEYBURN 42 33 31.30N 113 44 53.73W TOWER 1 00140 04291 N 1 D N 2020ANM06806OE C 2021126maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.558694+-113.748258#16-036731 is the crashed into stack, as already noted.#16-036732 thru 16-036737 are 100', 4256' MSL Gem stacks:maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.551047+-113.760189And this 37' high tank is by the tracks at 7th Ave:16-036750 O US ID HEYBURN 42 32 58.11N 113 45 47.84W TANK 1 00037 04187 R 4 D P 2017ANM00600OE C 2018029 maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.549475+-113.763289Street view:https://goo.gl/maps/zMVhwxePeR5Em32J7Elevators 124' high, NorthEast of Gem:16-000258 O US ID HEYBURN 42 33 17.33N 113 45 16.64W ELEVATOR 1 00124 04282 R 1 A N 0076_NW00104OE C 2013291maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.554814+-113.754622Street view:https://goo.gl/maps/zRAEzTUpo3y2PpmJ6But these across the tracks are not in the database:https://goo.gl/maps/1ZD8aeGhy2Y1CsdEAAnd this tower, Google maps doesn't show:16-051497 U US ID HEYBURN 42 32 27.89N 113 45 01.48W TOWER 1 00125 04279 N 4 D N 2019ANM02334OE A 2020084maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.541081+-113.750411. Turbine engines are especially vulnerable. Do you expect a 95-year-old to be able to survive a physical impact of any consequence?? Would the FAA have allowed the company to mount a strobe on the top of that stack, or would it have interfered with the sight picture for a pilot on the glideslope for a landing? Her distraught father, Jim Bob Infanger (right), has said " Brittney knew the area well and flew to Burley International Airport all the time". Personal attacks and hate speech directed at the NTSB investigators, FAA investigators, Designated Pilot Examiners, Kathryn, as well as other members of the aviation blog, are unacceptable because they are not constructive. Doesn't make sense to say "I read all the comments" and then talk about runway lighting when comments upthread established that the crash at 8:32 AM was an hour and a half after the 6:56 sunrise. The private pilot and flight instructor were fatally injured. I remember reading a story about a pilot who ditched in the ocean just off shore from a beach, maybe 20-30 yards out, and walked away uninjured. As the Caravan started overflying the Gem factory, visibility further degraded due to the steam pulsed from the 6 stacks. I watched a podcast a few days ago discussing a similar fatal ditching (N16JR) in the Santa Monica area that happened in 2006, the NTSB determined that the occupants were not wearing shoulder harnesses (because they didn't have any) and died due to drowning with complications from blunt force trauma. The altitudes Flightaware shows are the uncorrected pressure altitudes reported by the aircraft's ADS-B transmitter. The accident happened at sunrise and coincided with rush hour. "Yeah, no. Donations can be dropped off or mailed to Bill Allen Accounting at 533 Main St., Salmon, Idaho 83467. i know what my $ is on and it isnt your theory. Reply. He's getting his wish. This is probably why the pilot decided to continue the approach"The eye witness account does not agree with your theory. Thanks for the correction, point taken. He blamed a hazardous chimney on the Gem State Processing Plant for the deadly crash.Hmmmmmm! But I don't find it baffling that a 95-year-old would not survive the accident. There are many approaches just as challenging, that's why you respect the MDA and you do not descend unless the runway is in sight. (Nobody commenting here so far has indicated that they looked closely and noticed the tolerance associated with specific obstruction records in the obstruction database, so it's time to shine a light on declared tolerances there. If the snow flurry intensifies or the tater drying plume is solid and significant such that it's going to have to be descended through or the combined conditions will be imposing loss of visual for a period of time after having sighted the runway at MDA, a go around is the correct response.The accident pilot reportedly was not a first timer to BYI and for all of the NAVAID limitations you mentioned, a divert to Twin Falls (as had been done by whichever pilot was aboard on the day before the accident) was the choice to make if the visibility at the plant wasn't as reported by METAR during the two approach attempts. The obstruction database tolerance codes need to be audited in every record to see if declared accuracy limits are being applied to obstructions in approach and departure surface profiles or just the nominal stated elevations are being used.For convenience, here is the decoder link again, with info on decoding the data record starting on the readme pdf's page 5:https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flight_info/aeronav/digital_products/dof/media/DOF_README_09-03-2019.pdf. Updated: 4:45 p.m. A small plane crashed into the second story of a Hermantown home just before midnight Saturday night, killing three people on board. Vertical rate was approximately 900 fpm at last point and it appears it hit some silos at a food plant. Plant info says it operates 24 hours, has been in operation since 2011.Presumably the NTSB is evaluating appropriate airspeed for the accident day combination of two approach exposures to potential mist and light snow airframe ice contamination, considering the minus 3 C / 27 F temperature reported at the airfield. Think logically: If the roof could be seen and descended toward as if it was runway, the Snake river and railroad bridge would be expected to occupy that same view. Anonymous, if the visibility was as good as you say it was, why did the pilot hit the tower? Tater plant has more political clout and money then a city owned airport. Tubers meaning starchy root vegetables like potatoes? So according to Jepp, the usable runway length is 3,787 feet. She established -857 and kept it there and kept going. I think you are attacking the wrong anonymous commenter. sadly, we'll never know what she was seeing or thinking in those final moments. Granbury reports they didn't see (post crash): KGDJ 050255Z AUTO 14008KT 5SM BR OVC007 11/10 A3009 RMK AO2 T01050098,M "4,000 feet is short for a Caravan? She was just building hours waiting to get on with a regional. Sure, reported airport weather can be different than what you experience on approach, but it is quite unlikely that less than 1 mile off airport, the ceilings dropped from 2100 AGL to 200 AGL and visibility halved from 2SM to 1SM to keep the pilot in IMC when the airport weather was trending in the opposite direction. She was going to hit something as that rate was not arrested. ASN Wikibase Occurrence # 301345. folks in charge of choosing these airports are not always aware of the dangers of choosing these airports for daily scheduled flights in all weather conditions. The MDA is 4560 with a TDZE of 4152; so 408 above with a requirement of 1 mile visibility. I believe the stack in question WAS added relatively recently (it is NOT one of the six clustered together, is was by itself on a different part of the roof. Harrowing video captured the moment a small plane crashed into a neighborhood near a California high school . The April 4 METAR headwind of 9 knots at the time is added to the ground speeds, making airspeed 96 knots in the 09:53:05 AM April 4 data point (note that the arcing track getting from the 09:52:44 to the 09:53:05 data point is actually a further distance than straight line, making the true airspeed slightly higher):April 4 METARS (from mesonet.agron.iastate.edu):KBYI 041350Z AUTO 22009KT 10SM CLR 04/M08 A2975KBYI 041353Z AUTO 23009KT 10SM CLR 05/M08 A2975For the accident day, the April 13 METAR headwind of 8 knots at the time is added to the ADS-B reported ground speeds.At 21 seconds before reaching the tater building's edge and 300 feet higher, airspeed was 81 + 8 = 89 knots:Wed 10:32:04 AM 42.5578 -113.7532 216 81 93 4,450 -750http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5578+-113.7532At reaching the edge of the building, 80 + 8 = 88 knots: Wed 10:32:25 AM 42.5520 -113.7592 217 80 92 4,150 -857http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5520+-113.7592. Brittney lived life to its fullest. The KBYI AWOS observations already cited above all gave evidence of Icing Conditions of -SN (light snow) and below freezing temperatures. "Don't bust minimums. More Info. :-)Try this, cued t=140, set it to .25 speed, 2:20 to 2:31 to see plume:https://youtu.be/fNIsBWj6nok?t=140, You might want to rethink that comment about the condensation plume from the plant being "underwhelming." https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N2217R/history/20220508/1750Z/KTWF/KTWF We are lucky there wasn't a second accident at KBYI! A couple sleeping in the house narrowly . You can use the controls at the top to stop at 14:31:00 and have a look:http://weather.rap.ucar.edu/radar/displayRad.php?icao=KSFX&prod=CREF&bkgr=color&endDate=20220413&endTime=15&duration=1(Link will show that look-back until seven days from 4/13, so copy images before they are no longer accessible if of interest.). *That's very little margin for error, and that's following the published approach on the plate. 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